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Working With Friends And Family - Yes Or No?

Discussion in 'Starting a business in Scotland? Introductions' started by selfemployed, Jan 31, 2018.

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Would you work with friends and family?

Poll closed Feb 28, 2018.
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  2. No

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  1. selfemployed

    selfemployed Super Moderator

    We all know about the pros and cons of working with friends and family - would you do it?
     
  2. Businessman

    Businessman Member

    As my wife - and soon to be my daughter - are both CI graduates, and we run as a family business then yes; I do actually work with friends and family. - I think the difficulty comes when they're a little more extended than that. - Can I find a job for my niece or nephew? Well no, neither of them have the necessary level or type of educational background.

    Growing up, I had an uncle and aunt who were in the catering trade... One thing that taught me is that it's a business you don't 'just pick up off the ground (one of the reasons why so many catering establishments fail is that people think it is!) and that its a lot of hard work for relatively limited reward. ...At various times they'd get 'emotionally blackmailed' into letting some or other of the family wait tables or wash dishes; usually the black sheep who weren't working at other things! - Without exception, it ended in disaster!
     
  3. Needhelp

    Needhelp Member

    Do you not find it difficult treating them like employees rather than family members?
     
  4. Businessman

    Businessman Member

    I don't really have to... It's my wife's business as much as it is mine, my daughter's been brought up amidst it all. They know their roles and don't require much intervention from me.

    But my uncle's experience was very different... And yes, he ultimately had difficulty maintaining discipline.
     
  5. Needhelp

    Needhelp Member

    I suppose if everyone knows their role then working with family and friends should/could be ok. However, my only concern is that with a small business it just takes one employee (family member/friend) to slacken off and be a little work shy to hit the business. No room for sentiment in business.
     
  6. Businessman

    Businessman Member

    As with many things in life, and much in business, there is no 'one size fits all' answer.

    I can think of examples where inter-generational business thrive, sometimes for more than a century or two; often with respect for heritage (sentiment) at their core. Others, where the next generation destroys the business and basically eats through their inheritance through an unearned entitlement. There are situations where people feel trapped and inhibited by being shoehorned into the family business etc.

    I wouldn't say there's no room for sentiment in business - unless you're in the business of armed robbery. What there's no room for (in a legitimate business at least) is irrationality, duplicity, dishonesty, laziness or fraud.

    If I were asked for a rule of thumb I'd suggest never hiring or absorbing anyone in the business who isn't trained and qualified for the role they're being placed in - i.e. they've freely, of their own will, gone and studied (formally or informally) that role and type of business and gravitated towards it. Don't hire anyone for anything who hasn't earned their place.
     
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  7. seoMaster

    seoMaster Member

    I think it's a bad idea, because working with friends is uncomfortable. You'll make concessions, and your business will suffer because of that. I recently opened my business on the Internet. Now I have my own website firecams.com. I did it with a stranger, because I'm easier. He told me about it too. This is my personal opinion. I'm not imposing.
     
  8. FlpGears

    FlpGears Manufacturer & Supplier of Sports Gloves

    No, Not at all. I think it's bad for your relationships. It's uncomfortable because if your friend or a family member is your college or your subordinate you can't take any strike action against them.
     
  9. Ronald123321

    Ronald123321 Member

    When working with family there are pros and cons. I took a chance, and now my family and I have a good business, which brings us income. By the way, we earn on sports betting. I understand more about football, and I can foresee the score of the match. And my son is more versed in basketball and is engaged in betting on this sport. At the place, where we work https://777score.com, you can bet not only on one sport, but several - football, basketball, hockey, tennis. This is a huge plus of this site.
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2018